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is there a plan c or over the fiscal cliff. dan henninger, editorial board member. mary anastasia o'grady and jason riley. where do we stand right now with the collapse of plan b? >> well, it's no fun being john boehner right now. he's still in a tight spot and the concern that the republicans have is that obama's panel strength and as we go over the cliff and tax rates go up. but i really think the buck stops with the president here. when you go into the negotiating sessions, paul and you're expected to make concessions, but you're expect today get something in return and boehner made a major concession on rights and the president is giving him nothing in return to take that to his caucus and say, this is what happened in the horse trading. it's all or nothing, obama seems determined to humiliate the opposition. >> paul: boehner made two concessions, first 800 billion on the table in revenue and don't raise rates when the president said no he, you've got to raise rates. he said okay, a concession on rates, an offer first we'll vote for a million dollar tax increase
is there a plan c or over the fiscal cliff. dan henninger, editorial board member. mary anastasia o'grady and jason riley. where do we stand right now with the collapse of plan b? >> well, it's no fun being john boehner right now. he's still in a tight spot and the concern that the republicans have is that obama's panel strength and as we go over the cliff and tax rates go up. but i really think the buck stops with the president here. when you go into the negotiating sessions, paul and...
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that is underlying the fiscal cliff and everything going on on capitol hill behind us. that is the philosophical question. i tax, high benefits or a low tax, low benefits. host: the president is on his way to high this weekend. i am assuming speaker boehner is going to high and majority leader reid is going to nevada. will there be any discussions between anybody over the next week or so? when do we expect these five banks -- these guys will come back to wrap this up? guest: they will come back and wrap up the supplemental bill hand and a couple of pieces of legislation they have to do -- supplemental bill has and a couple of pieces of legislation they have to do anyway. u.s. something all of us on capitol hill are dying to find out. when -- you ask something of a who worked on capitol hill are dying to find out. at the present's post office -- press conference, someone yelled, when are you coming back? we want to have the longest section possible. host: thanks for being on the program. we will continue talking about >> we are joined by the authors of the nearly release
that is underlying the fiscal cliff and everything going on on capitol hill behind us. that is the philosophical question. i tax, high benefits or a low tax, low benefits. host: the president is on his way to high this weekend. i am assuming speaker boehner is going to high and majority leader reid is going to nevada. will there be any discussions between anybody over the next week or so? when do we expect these five banks -- these guys will come back to wrap this up? guest: they will come back...
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tomorrow, a programming note fur on fox news sunday, chris wallace gets the latest on the fiscal cliff from lawmakers in the now. exclusive interviews with republican john burasso. today we saw the three funerals for the final three children. 7 year old josen gay . six year oldnana mar quiz green . parker was laid to rest in u>> she had just celebrated her 7th birthday three days before the attack. ana mar questions-greene moved to the area from canada . she was emily parker knew to the earlier from ogden, utah . the father said the world is a better place for having had emily in it. pope john paul ii sending an inspirational christmas message . one that speaks louder than words and all what it had to do with the man on the right. >> and run away shopping cart with . but you will see there is a child in the cart . millions of americans, preparing to reach the holiday destination . the weather may not cooperate with the plans. meteorologist maria mowill you pleasa in the extreme weather center. stay close. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time r christmas?
tomorrow, a programming note fur on fox news sunday, chris wallace gets the latest on the fiscal cliff from lawmakers in the now. exclusive interviews with republican john burasso. today we saw the three funerals for the final three children. 7 year old josen gay . six year oldnana mar quiz green . parker was laid to rest in u>> she had just celebrated her 7th birthday three days before the attack. ana mar questions-greene moved to the area from canada . she was emily parker knew to the...
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cliff. true, it was asking the house republicans to vote for a tax increase. but it was -- they got some cover from grower and others and i think it was a political exercise more so than anythings and it had enabled the work, it would have changed the scenario. >> governor, you know first-hand the politics of raising taxes. what did you make of all this? >> i almost felt sorry for speaker boehner. being torn apart by his own caucus. i'm enthusiastic about them passing anything. tax bills have to start in the house. the senate can take whatever vehicle they send over and substitute for it something that makes sense and have it sent back and it's on them to say yes or no as to whether we go over the cliff. that's really the approach. >> so you want to see something come out of the house? >> anything. anything. and you substitute the total bill. but it has to come out of the house and that's the rationale for getting something there. >> they actually did get something out of the house early las
cliff. true, it was asking the house republicans to vote for a tax increase. but it was -- they got some cover from grower and others and i think it was a political exercise more so than anythings and it had enabled the work, it would have changed the scenario. >> governor, you know first-hand the politics of raising taxes. what did you make of all this? >> i almost felt sorry for speaker boehner. being torn apart by his own caucus. i'm enthusiastic about them passing anything. tax...
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. >>> christmas may be around the corner but so is the fiscal cliff. president obama addressed the nation saying that he met republicans halfway and still no deal was reached meaning the future for tax cuts is still uncertain. >> reporter: d.c. may be shutting down for christmas but the clock last not stopped running on the fiscal cliff which is closer than ever. no deal was reached this week to keep taxes from going up on everyone. john boehner says he is hopeful that a deal could be reached but in a speech, he continues to hammer away at president obama. >> this was year the size of the debt, all $16 trillion of it surpassed the size of our entire economy. it's a grim milestone, one of many that we'll have to bear if we don't come to grips. the president's solution of raising tax rates would still leave red ink as far as the eye can see. >> the president landed in hawaii for a shorter than usual christmas break. he will return to washington after christmas to walk on the fiscal cliff. he is acknowledging the political reality by pushing a scaled back
. >>> christmas may be around the corner but so is the fiscal cliff. president obama addressed the nation saying that he met republicans halfway and still no deal was reached meaning the future for tax cuts is still uncertain. >> reporter: d.c. may be shutting down for christmas but the clock last not stopped running on the fiscal cliff which is closer than ever. no deal was reached this week to keep taxes from going up on everyone. john boehner says he is hopeful that a deal...
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. >>> lawmakers are losing hope that a comprehensive deal to avoided fiscal cliff can be reached by the end of year. many are pushing for a patchwork measure. a broader plan to better balance taxes and cut spending would be discussed in the new year. congress is on break for christmas. they'll only have a few days to get any type of deal done when they return after the holiday. >>> mitt romney's sontagg says his father, quote, wanted to be less than anyone he's het in his life. he made those comments "the boston globe." tagg romney said his father had no desire to become president and would have stepped aside if he had someone to take his place. he described his father as a very private person who doesn't love attention. tagg romney served as an adviser to the 2012 romney campaign. >>> could be the end for jack's boat house. why the historic riverfront rental shop has been told to get out by the end of next month. >>> and we got some sun today but will it last? chuck bell will tell us whether we cou >>> with less than two days now until christmas, some procrastinators spent their day sh
. >>> lawmakers are losing hope that a comprehensive deal to avoided fiscal cliff can be reached by the end of year. many are pushing for a patchwork measure. a broader plan to better balance taxes and cut spending would be discussed in the new year. congress is on break for christmas. they'll only have a few days to get any type of deal done when they return after the holiday. >>> mitt romney's sontagg says his father, quote, wanted to be less than anyone he's het in his...
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is still no deal in sight on the fiscal cliff. the president is holding firm on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. republicans say that must come with government spending cuts. in a plan b by republicans failed to make it to a vote and that has sparked some criticism from within the party. >> two years ago, speaker boehner promised to restore that process around which our entire government was designed. and so far, he has failed to fulfill that promise. i fault him for that. >> steven moore is the senior economics writer for the "wall street journal." necessary chicago. steven what do you make of congressman mcclintock and a lot of congressmen out there that mr. boehner has lost control of his own party? >> well, he certainly did, miquel, temporarily last week. almost everybody expected that plan b, as you described it, to past. and it had to be pulled at the last minute. that was an embarrassment for the speaker. he couldn't line up the votes in his own caucus that mean there is a lot of divisions even among the republicans a
is still no deal in sight on the fiscal cliff. the president is holding firm on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. republicans say that must come with government spending cuts. in a plan b by republicans failed to make it to a vote and that has sparked some criticism from within the party. >> two years ago, speaker boehner promised to restore that process around which our entire government was designed. and so far, he has failed to fulfill that promise. i fault him for that. >>...
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i think they are going to go over the cliff. the main objective obama had was not a fiscal one, it was political, to follow the victory in november by creating a civil war among republicans over the tax issue, which is exactly what happened. he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not do it. that is not a figure of the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how you get a deal done before january 1? >> that is essentially the problem the president faced with boehner two years ago. last year. can he deliver? how can you negotiate with someone who cannot deliver on his side? >> you go to people for support, at least three of whom have lost their committee assignments. how can you expect them to come over to your way of thinking? >> they were crowing when john boehner went down, taking some delight,
i think they are going to go over the cliff. the main objective obama had was not a fiscal one, it was political, to follow the victory in november by creating a civil war among republicans over the tax issue, which is exactly what happened. he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not...
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unemployment benefits insurance, and he wants it on his terms to be able to put off the fiscal cliff, but we are still going to have a lot of debate about how to deal with entitlements and spending cuts, and this is just showing that even after the election, washington teams paralyzed and unable to act, not very impressive. >> we felt so promising after the elections they wanted to work together, and you talk about the small deal, can they get it done? because boehner said, as far as reaching the deal, god only knows. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff where we get passed january 1st, things won't happen right away. there are automatic spending cuts that will take affect, and congress can come back and get legislation done. congress can prove to work quickly when it has to. i think the expectation is they come back after christmas and get the smaller deal done that at least puts off the idea of the fiscal cliff and then they have to come back and get back to the deficit-cutting deal if they can reach that later on. >> and president obama nominated john kerry as second of state. he has
unemployment benefits insurance, and he wants it on his terms to be able to put off the fiscal cliff, but we are still going to have a lot of debate about how to deal with entitlements and spending cuts, and this is just showing that even after the election, washington teams paralyzed and unable to act, not very impressive. >> we felt so promising after the elections they wanted to work together, and you talk about the small deal, can they get it done? because boehner said, as far as...
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we did deal with the fiscal cliff issues weeks have passed that. it's harry reid and the president that have yet to come up with something. if it was so easy, if they thought they had a solution to it, why didn't on friday they come to the table and actually pass something? the pressure is on them, what can they pass in the senate? >> harold, you know the politics of this but you also know the markets and how they've been reacting and wall street and corporate america more generally. is there new pessimism that we're, a, not going to get a deal and not solve the issue anyway? >> big disappointment. people outside of washington understand clearly. a couple hundred billion over ten years separating both sides. the question becomes can washington still govern itself? two, there's a realization we're in the middle of a small recovery. if we find ourselves not able to resolve this moment, it retards and slows and undermines what we see ourselves doing going forward. finally, for the life of me as someone who sfrd there, it was so distressful to watch bo
we did deal with the fiscal cliff issues weeks have passed that. it's harry reid and the president that have yet to come up with something. if it was so easy, if they thought they had a solution to it, why didn't on friday they come to the table and actually pass something? the pressure is on them, what can they pass in the senate? >> harold, you know the politics of this but you also know the markets and how they've been reacting and wall street and corporate america more generally. is...
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cliff. president obama said the break is good for lawmakers to think about a possible solution and he suggested a smaller deal that would just extend unemployment benefits and prevent middle class tax hikes. if no deal is reached by january 1st, everybody's taxes go up and there will be severe cuts to the federal budget. >> and mark sanford said he is considering running for the seat he once held in congress. he was a two-term governor that got international attention when he went missing in 2009, and he originally said he was hiking the appalachian trail, but he was visiting his mistress in argentina. sanford's now ex-wife, jenny, says she is considering a run for that seat. >>> and police say a serial arsonist struck again overnight. it happened at an abandoned storage structure and it's the 37th time since november 14th that somebody has set fire to an abandoned structure. >>> voting is over for egypt's controversial proposed constitution, and one side already claiming victory. preliminar
cliff. president obama said the break is good for lawmakers to think about a possible solution and he suggested a smaller deal that would just extend unemployment benefits and prevent middle class tax hikes. if no deal is reached by january 1st, everybody's taxes go up and there will be severe cuts to the federal budget. >> and mark sanford said he is considering running for the seat he once held in congress. he was a two-term governor that got international attention when he went missing...
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. >> alisyn: not only if we plunge off the fiscal cliff, even if we don't go off the fiscal cliff, the new york post has broken it down this morning and said, remember how -- president obama has been able to say he's lowering everybody's taxes because he put in that payroll holiday and payroll tax holiday. so everybody's taxes for the past two years, the social security tax 6.2 to 4.2%. that expires, sun sets at the end of this and that's not part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. everybody's-- there will be a bite taken out of every single person's paycheck because that holiday is over. >> clayton: yes, 2% we're talking here so it's going to go back to, as alisyn pointed out, that 6.2%, it's currently 4.2%. will they extend this thing? is this part of the negotiations? we don't know, so far it hasn't been, is it going to be put on the table at any point. >> kelly: unlike you, people on capitol hill scratching their heads and saying, what is going on, why haven't we had a common sense agreement bipartisan to get something done and everyone is scratching their heads and wall street is s
. >> alisyn: not only if we plunge off the fiscal cliff, even if we don't go off the fiscal cliff, the new york post has broken it down this morning and said, remember how -- president obama has been able to say he's lowering everybody's taxes because he put in that payroll holiday and payroll tax holiday. so everybody's taxes for the past two years, the social security tax 6.2 to 4.2%. that expires, sun sets at the end of this and that's not part of the fiscal cliff negotiations....
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anything hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan "b" made sense to. my republican colleagues. the ronald reagan smoeld if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. we have the same objective of lower taxes. i lime simpson/bowles, eliminate deduksz and lower rates and put money on the debt. tax rate hikes are a partisan solution presented by the solution and he'll get tax rate hikes to. my republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of americans from a tax hike, that's not a tax increase in my book so, chuck, maybe me and you and some other people in the senate can find a way to solve this in the short term but in the long term there won't be a deal. >> you think we're going over the cliff? >> i think we're going fall out of fiscal tree. the big chance for a big deal is at the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent it from become greece and saving social security
anything hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan "b" made sense to. my republican colleagues. the ronald reagan smoeld if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. we have the same objective of lower taxes. i lime simpson/bowles, eliminate deduksz and lower rates and put money on the debt. tax rate hikes are a partisan solution...
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cliff? >> i do. i have an abiding faith that we will not leave-- and this is going to take presidential leadership hands-on leadership-- it's going to take both houses of congress, and everyone to realize we can't let taxes go up on working people in this country, and the bush tax cuts are tax cuts that did help our economy in the beginning. we are in the doldrums now because of the debt and the deficits that are dragging down our economy, as well as the over-regulation of small business. i think we've got to do something to do a patch now which, clearly on december 27, when mark warner and i go back, it is going to be a patch because in four days, we can't solve everything. >> schieffer: let me ask-- >> but i think we need to stop this fiscal cliff at a reasonable if salary level and then start working on the spending cuts. >> schieffer: about 30 seconds, senator. will there be a small deal? >> i think there's going to, unfortunately, be only a small deal. unless we get to dpowrl trillion w
cliff? >> i do. i have an abiding faith that we will not leave-- and this is going to take presidential leadership hands-on leadership-- it's going to take both houses of congress, and everyone to realize we can't let taxes go up on working people in this country, and the bush tax cuts are tax cuts that did help our economy in the beginning. we are in the doldrums now because of the debt and the deficits that are dragging down our economy, as well as the over-regulation of small business....